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February 2011

Part 6 – My Response to an Atheist Essay! God’s Character Defended!

She states about Hell

http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=0312970609&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifr“However, you don’t have to hurt anyone to get into Hell. All it takes, according to Scripture, is knowing about Jesus and not accepting him as Savior. It doesn’t matter how virtuous you are, how much good you do, how happy an environment you create for others. Given this, the voluntary entry argument doesn’t make sense. 

The same argument could be used to justify the sending of Aryan opponents of Nazism to concentration camps: they voluntarily chose not to give homage to Hitler, so they chose to be interred.  

Why should we blame the Nazis for the inmates’ choice?

Why should we blame God for the choice of the damned?”
  

 Oops, not so fast with that approval clapping……..

Of course the FACT that the Jews DID NOT CHOOSE TO BE INTERNED OR TO DIE DOES NOT ENTER HER MIND WHEN MAKING THIS POINTLESS POINT!

Another Technical Foul

 The major difference here is that the Jews were in no way meant to pay homage to Hitler, from the beginning they were to die, his plan was extermination not worship so the analogy is silly at best!

DID THEY GET WHAT THEY WANTED?

 YOU WILL NOTICE HER CHOICE OF AN ANALOGY, SHE EQUATES GOD’S http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=B0046A9K38&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrPERFECTLY JUST BALANCES WITH A “CONCENTRATION CAMP and THE SOLDIERS OF HITLER”.

Why? She’s building a Straw-man to knock over with common sense!

Because this invokes the worst of memories and causes the mind to attach this horror to what God did concerning Salvation, more to the fine point, HOW SALVATION WORKS. Once you accept this analogy, you have attached a false premise and a sick picture of God all in one!

This argument against the most perfectly JUST and EQUAL PLAN OF SALVATION COULD ONLY COME FROM SATAN HIMSELF! It is an unfair comparison in the least and of no real debate value!

A false conclusion that God is unjust for His actions is what began the birth process of atheism, in Satan’s heart n the beginning. Satan at the moment he fell into pride was usurping his lower place in creation and assuming that the God of greater power didn’t exist in his heart, that’s the true definition of what an Atheist has done!


It is very important to keep that fact in mind.

http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=B004JGU0XS&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrA conclusion that the Almighty Righteous God is unjust or wrong for any of His actions cannot be arrived at except through the total depravity of those who draw such a conclusion, assuming that God is subject to human frailty and decision making. When the truth is that God’s decisions are above reproach.
So in order to understand how atheism had it’s origin, It is crucial to realize that the total depravity of the nature of Satan is the key principle that underlies the origin of atheism.

Satan has CORRUPTED MORAL PRINCIPLES, AND IS DEVOID OF GOOD IN ANY FORM- THEREFORE “HE” IS THE BEGINNING OF THOSE WHO ATTEMPT TO DEFY GOD’S CHARACTER!

Even though the conclusion that God is unjust is a high error and was known as such by Satan, his total depravity nevertheless made it impossible for him to conclude otherwise, when we see God through man’s failures GOD LOSES the character battle.

http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=1425183794&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrDepravity directs the hearts of its graceless subjects against God even though they know better. This is because of the very diametrical opposition of depravity to God and His Law. 

The nature of both human and demonic depravity is an unvarying and uncompromising principle that works apart from what its subjects know and remains opposed to God at all times despite God’s actions and despite their knowledge that it is impossible for God to be wrong.

The negative expressions of God toward the existence and outworking of the depraved natures of humans and demons is always right, whereas the negative expressions and opposition of the depraved natures of humans and demons toward God are always wrong. 

The very antithetical nature of the depravity of graceless humans and demons invariably enslaves them to react negatively to God regardless of what God does. Therefore, their depravity reacts negatively to God, despite the fact that God can never do evil and despite the fact that He is always perfectly innocent.

http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=0061335290&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrHere lies also the origin of insanity, WHICH MEANS TO BE TRAPPED IN A CYCLE OF DOING THE SAME THING OVER and OVER AGAIN EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT. Atheists use the same lame reasoning against God over and over with the same results, but never see the circular reasoning as wrong.

In order for Satan to have endeavored to judge God, there had to be in place some type of opinion, philosophy, religion, charter or law by which he used to try to judge God.
But God is not subject to anything. Nothing exists whatsoever that God is subject to or responsible to obey except his own word. 

THIS REMINDS ME OF THE FUNNIEST ARGUMENT AGAINST GOD BEING GOD, I HAVE EVER HEARD.

“Who created God? 

A super God, and who created the super God?

A super,super God?

God is not subject, SITUATED OR PLACED UNDER HIS OWN LAW even to the most noble law in the universe – the TEN COMMANDMENTS- which He made for mankind, nor to any law made for the angels. He is above all laws and does only His own will staying in perfect alignment with his word.

Why?

If this were true that ANYTHING IS ABOVE GOD, GOD CEASES TO BE GOD– THEREFORE THERE IS NO GOD AURGUMENT!

GOD’S LAW IS A REFLECTION OF HIS PERSONAL MORAL CHARACTER, GOD has Moral sense, an innate or natural sense of right and wrong; an instinctive perception of what is right or wrong in moral conduct, which approves some actions and disapproves others. This is HOW God intended Adam and Eve to find our about sin and NOT by experiencing it first hand!

God’s WILL IN THE UNIVERSE ALWAYS FOLLOWS HIS LAW, BUT BECAUSE WE ARE “FINITE IN UNDERSTANDING” WE DO NOT HAVE THE BIG PICTURE AS HE DOES SO WE “MISUNDERSTAND” HIS CHOICES IN CONNECTION WITH HIS LAW BECAUSE WE ONLY SEE IN PART AND KNOW IN PART.

http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=1560259698&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrSo there is no law He can possibly violate by any of His actions. Therefore, He cannot be rightly judged to be wrong in any action He performs.

I can hear the Atheist now, “What? so God is not held to his law”? NO THAT’S NOT QUITE WHAT I MEAN BY THIS, YOU SEE..GOD IS THE MOST ADVANCED MORAL PERSON EVER TO BE, SO HE HOLDS HIMSELF TO HIS OWN STANDARDS BECAUSE HE IS THE SOURCE OF ALL MORALITY.

An example of this is found in 
Heb 6:13

“For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he swore by himself,…….

Heb 6:16
“For men verily swear by the greater: and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife.”

Heb 6:17

http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=1933771364&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifr“Wherein God, willing more abundantly to show unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath:

Heb 6:18 

“That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us”

God is the LAW, THAT ALL LAWS PROCEED FROM.

The only choices Satan had by which to seek to judge God were in some form of his own depravity – Either choice would be the evil one attempting to judge the Righteous One – evil trying to condemn the righteousness as being evil – an impossibility and absolute deception.

But he probably chose the latter so as to make God deceptively appear wrong by His own Law. Again, an impossibility and absolute deception. This was the actual deceptive and utterly foolish birth of atheism. Atheism didn’t receive its origin by a true absence of proof of God’s existence, http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=074595393X&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrbecause there has always been and always will be overwhelming proof to the contrary, it came from viewing God’s character from a depraved heart.

Atheism had its origin by the expression of Satan’s depravity toward God, and it is embraced, maintained and perpetuated among graceless humans as a result of their total depravity. In other words, atheists follow in the footsteps of their master, the devil WHOM THEY DENY.

Now I will deal with the silliness of attacking salvation’s “ENTRANCE FEE! 

She said ONE TRUTH HERE THAT NEEDS REPEATING:

“All it takes, according to Scripture, is knowing about Jesus and not accepting him as Savior.” 

This is absolutely TRUE EXCEPT FOR THE KNOWING PART; IT’S INTIMATE PERSONAL INTERACTION OR NOTHING WITH GOD, the ONLY thing standing between you and hell is JESUS!

THAT’S HOW GOD PLANED IT AND IT IS THE SINGLE MOST FAIR WAY THAT HAS EVER BEEN DEVISED TO REDEEM MANKIND FROM HIMSELF AND SIN!
John 3:14-21 SAYS:

“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. “

{ Did you hear that, NO PERSONAL SIN SENDS YOU TO HELL- ONLY NOT RECEIVING JESUS IN YOUR LIFE, it cannot get any simpler than this yet Atheists seem to think its not that simple, it must be harder some how! }

“And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men { Atheist’s} loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.  For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=B002M08YDQ&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrcometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”

Now why is this such a sticking point to the Atheist?

In their thinking it is UNJUST TO SEND US TO TORMENT BECAUSE OF A PERSONAL CHOICE IN LIFE AND THAT WOULD MAKE ALL THE FUSS OVER SINS THAT WE COMMIT AGAINST GOD- DISPROVED!
SO THAT WE CAN DO AS WE PLEASE WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES!

That is a FALSE CONCLUSION, SALVATION’S ENTRANCE FEE IS FAITH IN HIS SON [ THE DOOR] BUT PERSONAL SIN “STORES UP WRATH”AGAINST THAT DAY OF JUDGMENT, WHEN GOD WILL JUDGE THE WORKS OF MEN TO DETERMINE THEIR “AMOUNT OF TORMENT WHICH THEY NOT HE HAS STORED UP TO THEMSELVES FOR ETERNITY! 

This is an equitable judgment, for you are NEVER PUNISHED BEYOND YOUR OWN http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=019824682X&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrCHOICE- IN LIFE OR IN DEATH! Its simple and Just no matter how men misapply it to life lived in sin.
If the entrance to heaven were by virtue of PERSONAL RIGHTEOUSNESS, NO ONE COULD EVER BE GOOD ENOUGH TO GET IN….AND IF THE ENTRANCE TO HELL WERE SIMPLY BASED ON PERSONAL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS NO ONE COULD EVER AVOID GOING THERE, BUT GOD MADE IT SIMPLE TO AVOID HELL AND SIMPLE TO GO TO HEAVEN- whay more do you want?

Atheist’s SIMPLY DON’T LIKE THE CHOICES so they wish to create a THIRD OPTION TO PARADISE: EAT OR BE EATEN AND NOT EVERYONE CAN MAKE IT! Evolutionary salvation is one of the most unjust and unfair ways to get ahead in life that could ever have been devised by man, but yet they accuse God of the terrible crime when its their hearts that block the way and not God!

BUT I ASK YOU, WHAT DO ANIMALS NEED WITH LOGIC IN A WORLD LIKE THAT?

Part 5 – My Response to an Atheist Essay! GENOCIDE!

She goes on to say:

“I hear a lot from Christians tell me about God’s “infinite compassion and mercy”.
“Instead of harping on me about something so unapparent, they should go tell it to the Midianites. “

What about Genocide & scripture, did God commit ETHNIC- {On heathen; or pagan} GENOCIDE? On heathen or pagans?

First what is GENOCIDE? 

It is defined as:
“in international law, the intentional by Design and systematic by Method destroy, wholly or in part, by a government of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group. Although the term http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=0310245680&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrgenocide was first coined in 1944, the crime itself has been committed often in history”, BUT never by OR According to the doctrines of morality. 
NO CRIME OF THIS MAGNITUDE IS DONE ON MORAL GROUNDS, IT CAN ONLY BE DONE BY AN A-MORAL PEOPLE devoid of personal judgment.
So we must judge this not on the moral standings of men BUT upon the ETHICAL STAND OF A MORAL GOD!
I must also interject here that Adolf Hitler “CLAIMED TO BE CHRISTIAN” BECAUSE HE AND HIS HENCHMEN WERE CATHOLICS, JESUIT TRAINED IN FACT..ALL THIS PROVES IS THAT “RELIGION IN ANY MAN-MADE FORM” IS NOT TRUE FAITH IN GOD AND THEREFORE NOT EVIDENCE OF GOD’S IMPROPRIETY.

If anything it shows the utter contempt for life that PAGANS PRETENDING TO BE CHRISTIAN THROUGH FALSE RELIGION have for each other and the rest of us…HITLER WAS NO MORE “GOD’S CHILD” THAN YOUR A HAMBURGER IF YOU GO TO McDonald’s.
PRESENCE IN A CHURCH BUILDING DOES NOT EQUAL GOD’S PRESENCE IN THE HEART.
http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=1936488248&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrHere’s an example of the type of verses atheist’s misunderstand, NOT THE WORDING OF THE VERSE BUT THE INTENT OF GOD’S DIRECTION IN THE VERSE.
“Thus saith the LORD of hosts … go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”
“How Could a Compassionate God Order the “Genocide” of the Canaanites or Amalek ?”
Now of course I can give the simple answer from the Bible which is enough for people who trust God but not for those who DOUBT HIS RIGHT TO RULE!
THE BIBLE SAYS that God gave them 400+ years to repent WARNING THEM BY EVERY WAY POSSIBLE and that their sins were beyond horrible, but the real question is an ethical one.
http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=904292084X&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrHow can God who has such compassion for the innocents in Nineveh order the wholesale killing of innocent children in Palestine?
Is the God of the OT and the God of the NT the same Person?
How can I reconcile these, in modern terms, “unthinkable” crimes against humanity with the God of compassion revealed by Jesus?
We need to revisit the assessment of the Canaanites as “innocent people.” Also remember that God sent Jonah to WARN NINEVEH WHICH WAS NOT INNOCENT or they would not have been warned!
SO THE BIBLICAL PATTERN REMAINS THE SAME-
WARNING!…. THEN SURE JUDGMENT!
From God’s perspective, there is no such thing as an innocent human being (apart from Jesus Christ).
Every human heart is born with the nature of evil and bent on sin and rebellion. I see a strong http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=1143050940&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrparallel between God’s actions against the Canaanites and the actions of an oncology surgeon.
He has to cut out what may appear to be healthy tissue but which is actually infected with cancer cells that ONLY HE SEES.

NO ONE would say “How could this compassionate doctor “CUT OFF” human flesh that is perfectly good?

Doesn’t he know it HURTS the patient to do this, doesn’t he KNOW that the patient will miss that part and “morn” that loss the rest of his or her life?

Was this loss really necessary?
Couldn’t the doctor have done it some other way to AVOID ALL THAT PAIN?
Or whatever else the MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK would teach?
Does not the doctor with all his vast knowledge know MORE THAN THE PATIENT ABOUT HIS PROBLEM?
This is the idea behind “PERSONAL ETHICS”THE DOCTOR MUST LOOK AT ALL http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=041548619X&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrAVENUES OF TREATMENT, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE MANY COMPONENTS OF THE PATIENTS LIFE, SICKNESS, HISTORY AND PHYSIOLOGY IN ORDER TO COME TO THE SOLUTION HE ULTIMATELY FOLLOWS THROUGH WITH.

This is “ETHICAL BEHAVIOR” FROM THE HUMAN PERSPECTIVE, HOW MUCH MORE DETAILED WOULD GOD’S INVESTIGATION BE IN REGARDS TO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE?
HOW DARE ANY HUMAN JUDGE HIM!
The Canaanites were infected with sin, they practiced CHILD SACRIFICE TO FALSE GOD’S AND THE MOST PERVERTED SEXUAL DEVIANCE IMAGINABLE, with animals and human alike.
This was a judgment EQUAL TO THEIR SINS AGAINST MAN & NATURE as well as to GOD, the Utter annihilation of a civilization that was rotten to the core, BUILT UPON THE BLOOD OF IT’S OWN CHILDREN.
This kind of evil cannot ever be excused before the Cross of Christ, and the very fact that any Atheist would try too is APPALLING IN IT’S OWN RIGHT!
The children OF THESE EVIL PAGANS were not as innocent as we think they were. http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=1401918883&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrRemember children must be RAISED UP IN “EVIL PRACTICES” IN ORDER TO BE WILLING SACRIFICES TO THEIR GOD’S.
Look at the LRA in Uganda, and if you have a chance to watch a video called “Invisible Children”, you’ll see two opposites to children. To the same degree of innocence and the good from innocence that children can have is the same degree to which they can become even more evil and destructive. 

Most of us live in a time and a place where we are mostly shielded from what true evil looks like. The evil that all people of all ages did in Sodom, Gomorrah, Canaan, Moab, Ammon, Edom, and other places dwarfs the worst acts we hear about on the news,we have not even come close to these evils today.

Until we understand what true evil looks like and the consequences of it and STOP JUSTIFYING IT AS FREE SPEECH!

http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=0310245680&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrWe will have a hard time ever understanding God’s justice and mercy and we will be shocked at what “normal people” or even “perverts” are truly capable of. 

Until then, we will be shocked that a seemingly “normal” man went into an Amish schoolhouse and murdered without remorse, or that two boys went into Columbine high school and didn’t come out alive, or that people could so hate us they will fly planes into our buildings,make no mistake about it…

THEY HAVE NO MERCY WITHIN THEM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN “SEARED INSIDE” by their constant sinning.

Also remember what happened in the case of Babylon/Persia bringing back the best of the children of captured countries — Daniel and his buddies became the most powerful in the land.
This was a positive result BUT the same could also happen in a reverse scenario, and in a worst case scenario they would try to overthrow or pervert the Israelites with enough time and the right catalysts.

http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=0567080897&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrLet’s also remember that the Canaanites did exactly the same to the Israelites (women and children included) years before, a fact passed over by those who Judge God.

Who were the early inhabitants of the Holy Land?

They were the descendants of Shem and Arphaxed (ancestor of the Hebrews).
The PRE- PROMISED { In the heart of God } uninhabited land was populated by them shortly after the flood and was an inheritance for them. Traditions regarding the early history of the Holy Land can be found in the Book of Jubilee, the Kebra Nagast and commentaries of Rash, Philo and the Sepher Hayashar. 

Those descended from Ham were known as the Canaanites and were given a different inheritance to occupy, however, this was not good enough for them and they invaded the lands of Shem. 

The Canaanites drove out and/or killed the descendants of Shem and then occupied the land. Although the Bible does not directly mention the Canaanite invasion it implies the occurrence in Genesis 12:6 when it uses the expression “the Canaanites were in the land”.

The Hebrew carries the connotation of, “then but not before”, as opposed to, “then but not http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=0217952712&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrnow”, as Canaanites were present up and until the second Temple period by which time Genesis had certainly been written. Assuming this to be true the Israelite invasion was nothing short of an eye for an eye and was a righteous judgment according to Mosaic law. 

BUT, please think about this- in the Old covenant relationship, God dealt with man WITHOUT A BORN AGAIN SPIRIT. 

So God could not control men from the “HEART” like he can now in the New covenant,THIS IS NOT AN EXCUSE…IT IS SIMPLY A REASON AMONG MANY REASONS FOR GOD’S ACTIONS!

Had the Israelites not eradicated the Canaanite people, I dare say you would have had land disputes much like you see in the Holy Land today. 

Just as if the doctor HAD NOT REMOVED THE “CANCER INFECTED CELLS” in the body of his patient, DESPITE THE PAIN AND SUFFERING THAT ACTION CAUSED, IT WAS “FAR BETTER” than the alternative!

It would have greatly hindered if not prevented the Israelite nation from EVER forming.

It was not just forming the nation God was worried about it was forming a nation free of the http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=080613108X&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrcorruption and idol worship of the Canaanite people. God did not need more of the same from the Israelites as he got from the Canaanites.

Looking back you can see that God was successful only to the extent { HIS ULTIMATE PURPOSE FOR ISRAEL } that they were able to bring the Messiah into the world and preserve a remnant of the chosen people to serve him.

Let’s be very clear here, God acted in the BEST INTEREST OF HIS END GOAL- TO BRING ULTIMATE DELIVERANCE OF THE SIN PROBLEM, BY THE BIRTH OF HIS SON INTO THIS EARTH!

She says: “I have discovered via my discussions that there are two major forms: 

the corruption argument
and the mercy argument.

http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=9004130454&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrThe former says that those slaughtered were evil and deserving of their fate; the latter says that since they were religiously incorrect, it was a mercy to terminate their existence.” 

Notice the precise wording of this statement, in order to give God no way out of the argument-
“Evil and Deserving”there is no MEAT in the middle with which to judge the action as I have plainly given, there is MORE between the EVIL and the DESERVING.
“RELIGIOUSLY INCORRECT” what does that mean exactly?

Numb 31:2

“Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites: afterward shalt thou be gathered unto thy people.”
AGAIN….
 
” Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites:
” DID YOU SEE THAT? THESE MINIANITES HAD DONE THE SAME THING TO ISRAEL http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=1155331559&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrTHAT GOD INSTRUCTED ISRAEL TO DO TO THEM, “AN EYE FOR AN EYE !”

For the injury they had done them, by sending their daughters among them, who enticed them to commit uncleanness with them, and then drew them into the worship of their idols, which brought the wrath of God upon them, and for which 24,000 persons were slain.

Now, though the Moabites had a concern in this affair as well as the Midianites, yet they were spared; which some think was for the sake of Lot, from whom they descended; but why not the Midianites for the sake of Abraham, whose offspring they were by Keturah?

http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=0691000867&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrJarchi says, they were spared because of Ruth, who was to spring from them; and so she might, and yet vengeance be taken on great numbers of them: but the truer reason seems to be, either because the sin of the Moabites was not yet full, and they were reserved for a later punishment; or rather because they were not the principal actors in the above affair; but the Midianites, who seem to have advised Balak at first to send for Balaam to curse Israel, and who harboured that soothsayer after he had been dismissed by Balak, and to whom he gave his wicked counsel, and which they readily followed, and industriously pursued.”

ETHER WAY YOU LOOK AT THIS- IT WAS “JUSTICE” and NOT “GENOCIDE!”

"Oprah and Friends" to teach course on New Age Christ By Warren Smith

I believe Blogging should be informative, then entertaining. To talk without real meaning does no one any good,”Give a man a fish and you fill his stomach for a day but teach a man to fish and HE can fill his stomach with food every day.”







By Warren Smith
November 2007
See also Oprah and Eckhart Do the New Age Shift by Warren Smith



Oprah Winfrey will be letting out all the stops on her XM Satellite Radio program this coming year. Beginning January 1, 2008, “Oprah & Friends” will offer a year-long course on the New Age teachings of A Course in Miracles.1 A lesson a day throughout the year will completely cover the 365 lessons from the Course in Miracles “Workbook.” 
 
For example, Lesson #29 asks you to go through your day affirming that “God is in everything I see.”2 Lesson #61 tells each person to repeat the affirmation “I am the light of the world.”3 Lesson #70 teaches the student to say and believe “My salvation comes from me.”4

By the end of the year, “Oprah & Friends” listeners will have completed all of the lessons laid out in the Course in Miracles Workbook. Those who finish the Course will have a wholly redefined spiritual mindset—a New Age worldview that includes the belief that there is no sin, no evil, no devil, and that God is “in” everyone and everything. A Course in Miracles teaches its students to rethink everything they believe about God and life. The Course Workbook bluntly states: “This is a course in mind training”5 and is dedicated to “thought reversal.”6

http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=0791438546&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrTeaching A Course in Miracles will be Oprah’s longtime friend and special XM Satellite Radio reporter Marianne Williamson—who also happens to be one of today’s premier New Age leaders. She and Conversations with God author Neale Donald Walsch co-founded the American Renaissance Alliance in 1997, that later became the Global Renaissance Alliance of New Age leaders, that changed its name again in 2005 to the Peace Alliance. This Peace Alliance seeks to usher in an era of global peace founded on the principles of a New Age/New Spirituality that they are now referring to as a “civil rights movement for the soul.”7 They all agree that the principles of this New Age/New Spirituality are clearly articulated in A Course in Miracles—which is fast becoming the New Age Bible. So what is A Course in Miracles and what does it teach?

A Course in Miracles is allegedly “new revelation” from “Jesus” to help humanity work through these troubled times. This “Jesus”—who bears no doctrinal resemblance to the Bible’s Jesus Christ—began delivering his channeled teachings in 1965 to a Columbia University Professor of Medical Psychology by the name of Helen Schucman. 

 

One day Schucman heard an “inner voice” stating, “This is a course in miracles. Please take notes.”8 For seven years she diligently took spiritual dictation from this inner voice that described himself as “Jesus.” A Course in Miracles was quietly published in 1975 by the Foundation for Inner Peace. For many years “the Course” was an underground cult classic for New Age seekers who studied “the Course” individually, with friends, or in small study groups.

As a former New Age follower and devoted student of A Course in Miracles, I eventually discovered that the Course in Miracles was—in reality—the truth of the Bible turned upside down. Not having a true understanding of the Bible at the time of my involvement, I was led to believe that A Course in Miracles was “a gift from God” to help everyone understand the “real” meaning of the Bible and to help bring peace to the world. Little did I know that the New Age “Christ” and the New Age teachings of A Course in Miracles http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=B0027CSLJG&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrwere everything the real Jesus Christ warned us to watch out for. In Matthew 24 Jesus warned about false teachers, false teachings and the false “Christs” who would pretend to be He. 


When I left the New Age “Christ” to follow the Bible’s Jesus Christ, I had come to understand that the “Jesus” of A Course in Miracles was a false “Christ,” and that his Course in Miracles was dangerously deceptive. Here are some quotes from the “Jesus” of A Course in Miracles:

  • “There is no sin. . . ” 9
  •   [See note]

  •  A “slain Christ has no meaning.”10
  • “The journey to the cross should be the last ‘useless journey.”11
  • “Do not make the pathetic error of ‘clinging to the old rugged cross.’”12
  • “The Name of Jesus Christ as such is but a symbol… It is a symbol that is safely used as a replacement for the many names of all the gods to which you pray.”13
  • “God is in everything I see.”14
  • “The recognition of God is the recognition of yourself.”15
  • “The oneness of the Creator and the creation is your wholeness, your sanity and your limitless power.”16
  • “The Atonement is the final lesson he [man] need learn, for it teaches him that, never having sinned, he has no need of salvation.”17

Most Christians recognize that these teachings are the opposite of what the Bible teaches. In the Bible, Jesus Christ’s atoning death on the cross of Calvary was hardly a “useless journey.” His triumph on the cross provides salvation to all those who confess their sin, accept Him and follow Him as their Lord and http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=B001NOQ8WG&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrSaviour. His victory on the cross rings throughout the New Testament. It has been gloriously sung about in beloved hymns through the ages and is at the heart of our Christian testimony. 

 
I found the Jesus of the Bible to be wholly believable as He taught God’s truth and warned about the spiritual deception that would come in His name. The “Jesus” of A Course in Miracles reveals himself to be an imposter when he blasphemes the true Jesus Christ by saying that a “slain Christ has no meaning” and that we are all “God” and that we are all “Christ.” It was by reading the Bible’s true teachings of Jesus Christ that I came to understand how deceived I had been by A Course in Miracles and my other New Age teachings.

I was introduced to A Course in Miracles by Dr. Gerald Jampolsky’s book Love is Letting Go of Fear. Jampolsky declared in his easy-to-read book how the teachings of A Course in Miracles had changed his life. As an ambassador for A Course in Miracles over the years, Jampolsky has been featured not only in New Age circles but at least twice on Robert Schuller’s Hour of Power. While Schuller introduced Jampolsky and his “fabulous”18 Course in Miracles-based books to his worldwide television audience, it was Marianne Williamson’s appearance on a 1992 Oprah Winfrey Show that really shook the rafters.

On that program, Oprah enthusiastically endorsed Williamson’s book, A Return to Love: Reflections on the Principles of A Course in Miracles. Oprah told her television audience that Williamson’s book about A Course in Miracles was one of her favorite books, and that she had already bought a thousand copies and would be handing them out to everyone in her studio audience. Oprah’s endorsement skyrocketed Williamson’s book about A Course in Miracles to the top of the New York Times bestseller list. Ironically, all of this was happening after I had left the Course and the New Age. In fact, I was doing the final editing on my book The Light That Was Dark that warned about the dangers of the New Age—and in particular A Course in Miracles.

After being introduced to the world on Oprah, Marianne Williamson has continued to grow in popularity and, as previously mentioned, has become one of today’s foremost New Age leaders. Williamson credits Winfrey for bringing her book about A Course in Miracles before the world: “For that, my deepest thanks to http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=1878993232&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrOprah Winfrey. Her enthusiasm and generosity have given the book, and me, an audience we would never otherwise have had.”19 In her 2004 book, The Gift of Change, Williamson wrote:

“Twenty years ago, I saw the guidance of the Course as key to changing one’s personal life; today, I see its guidance as key to changing the world. More than anything else, I see how deeply the two are connected.”20

Thus the New Age teachings of A Course in Miracles are about to be taught by Marianne Williamson to millions of listeners on Oprah’s XM Satellite Radio program. Listeners are encouraged to buy A Course in Miracles for the year-long course. An audio version of A Course in Miracles recited by Richard (John Boy Walton) Thomas is also available on compact disc. 

Popular author Wayne Dyer told his PBS television audience that the “brilliant writing” of A Course in Miracles would produce more peace in the world.21 Williamson’s New Age colleague, Neale Donald Walsch, said his “God” stated that “the era of the Single Saviour is over”22 and that he (“God”) was responsible for authoring the teachings of A Course in Miracles.23
Meanwhile, Gerald Jampolsky’s Course in Miracles-based book, Forgiveness, continues to be sold in Robert Schuller’s Crystal Cathedral bookstore as Schuller prepares to host a January 17-19, 2008, “Rethink Conference” at his Crystal Cathedral.24

At this critical time in the history of the world, the New Gospel/New Spirituality is coming right at the world and the church with its New Age teachings and its New Age Peace Plan. But this New Age Peace Plan has at its deceptive core the bottom-line teaching from A Course in Miracles that “we are all one” because God is “in” everyone and everything. But the Bible is clear that we are not God (Ezekiel 28:2; Hosea 11:9). And per Galatians 3:26-28, our only oneness is in Jesus Christ—not in ourselves as “God” and “Christ.” What Oprah and Marianne Williamson and the world will learn one day is that humanity’s only real and lasting peace is with the true Jesus Christ who is described and quoted in the Holy Bible (Romans 5:1).

Oprah Winfrey’s misplaced faith in Marianne Williamson and the New Age teachings of A Course in Miracles is a sure sign of the times. But an even surer sign of the times is that most Christians are not http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=0231124031&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrtaking heed to what is happening in the world and in the church. We are not contending for the faith as the Bible admonishes us to do (Jude 3). 

It is time for all of our Purpose-Driven and Emerging church pastors to address the real issue of the day. Our true Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is being reinvented, redefined, and blasphemed right in front of our eyes and hardly anyone seems to notice or care. If we want the world to know who Jesus Christ is, we need to also warn them about who He is not. There is a false New Age “Christ” making huge inroads into the world and into the church. The Apostle Paul said that “it is a shame” we have to even talk about these things, but talk about them we must (Ephesians 5:12-16).

If people want to follow Oprah Winfrey and the New Age “Christ” of A Course in Miracles they certainly have that right. But let them be warned that the New Age “Christ” they are following is not the same Jesus Christ who is so clearly and authoritatively presented in the pages of the Bible.





Warren Smith is a former New Age follower who at one time was deeply involved in the New Age teachings of A Course in Miracles. He is the author of these insightful books:

 

Endnotes:

1. http://marianne.com/book/index/htm. It seeems to be broken, so try http://marianne.com instead.
2. A Course in Miracles: Combined Volume (Glen Ellen, California: Foundation for Inner Peace, 1975), (Workbook), p. 45.

3. Ibid., p. 102.

4. Ibid., p. 119.

5. Ibid., (Text), p. 16.

6. Ibid., (Preface), p. ix.

7. Neale Donald Walsch, Tomorrow’s God: Our Greatest Spiritual Challenge (New York: Atria Books, Simon & Schuster, 2004), pp. 262-263.

8. Robert Skutch, Journey Without Distance: The Story behind “A Course in Miracles” (Berkeley, California: Celestial Arts, 1984), p. 54.

9. A Course in Miracles: Combined Volume, (Workbook), p. 183.

10. Ibid., (Text), p. 425.

11. Ibid., p. 52.

12. Ibid.

13. Ibid., (Teachers Manual), p. 58.

14. Ibid., (Workbook), p. 45.

15. Ibid., (Text), p. 147.

16. Ibid., p. 125.

17. Ibid., p. 237.

20. Marianne Williamson, The Gift Of Change: Spiritual Guidance for a Radically New Life (San Francisco: HarperSanFrancisco, 2004), p. 5.

21. Wayne Dyer, “There’s a Spiritual Solution to Every Problem,” Public Broadcasting System broadcast in 2001.

22. Neale Donald Walsch, The New Revelations: A Conversation with God (New York: Atria Books, 2002), p. 157.

23. Neale Donald Walsch, Conversations with God: an uncommon dialogue, Book 1 (New York: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1996), p. 90.

Seven Major Teachings of the New Age

See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ. [Colossians 2:8]

New Age is not new … it is a modern revival of ancient religious traditions, along with a potpourri of influences: Eastern mysticism, modern philosophy and psychology, science and science fiction, and the counterculture of the 50s and 60s. “… So here we are in the New Age, a combination of spirituality and superstition, fad and farce, about which the only thing certain is that it is not new. Nobody seems to know exactly where the term came from, but it has been http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=B002KAO7FW&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifraround for several decades or more, and many elements of the New Age, like faith healing, fortune-telling and transmigration of souls, go back for centuries.”
 
[Otto Friedrich, “New Age Harmonies,” TIME, Dec. 7, 1987.]

Despite its popularity, the New Age is hard to define. It includes a variety of beliefs, fads, and rituals. It seems to be a marriage of Science & Easternism Cult-religious organizations and can be a mixture of Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Spiritualism such as, Church Universal & Triumphant (Elizabeth Clare Prophet). Some New Agers subscribe to some parts, some to others.

It is a religious movement that is centered in SELF- all you need is within – with no defined order of sin, repentance or salvation! You become your own god! The people worship the god of forces and promote The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ. 
 
Jesus was not and is not the only Christ, nor is he God.
 
Some may think that everyone means the same thing when they say “Christ.” Christians see the one and only begotten Son of God, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Many New Age writers on the other hand refer to a Christ spirit. They believe there have been many Christ, Jesus being only one of many.

New Age prophetess Alice Bailey and author of many occult books, including The Reappearance of The Christ, describes the “Avatar of Synthesis,” who she says is a “close Associate” of “the Christ.” She says: “He works under the great natural Law of Synthesis, producing at-one-ment, unification and fusion. His function (in unison with the energy of Christ) is to generate spiritual will in humanity, the will-to good.

http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=1591020409&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrThe New Ager understands Christ as a reincarnated avatar, Messiah, or messenger sent from the ‘hierarchy’ to give the living on earth spiritually advanced revelation. The New Age accepts that Buddha, Mohammed, Confucius, Jesus, and many others were ‘Christ’.

The Baha’i World Faith claims to be in perfect harmony with the Christian Faith yet see the historical Jesus as only one of several manifestations of Christ on equal ground as Abraham, Moses, Krishna, Zoroastrian, Budda, Mohammed, the Bab, and their founder: Baha’u’llah.
“God” is impersonal, cosmic, a God of energy forces.

 
All things, including man, constitute, the ONE – called Universal Mind, The Source, Universal Self, Cosmic Consciousness, Universal Presence, or The Force” – your Inner Voice, Higher Self, or Intuition. ” God is an impersonal energy; force, immanent in all things (including man). God can be referred to either as she or he, mother or father, god or goddess.

Do not be deceived! New Agers do not mean God or Jesus Christ of the Bible. Most New Age teachers hold that Mother Earth, the sun, the moon, and the stars, indeed all of Nature can be worshipped as God. 

Man is himself God, for he consists of and is the creator of “the forces.” Man already exercises the powers inherent in his divinity and needs only to awaken to this fact.

http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=B002XDR4F6&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrNew Ageism embraces supernaturalism, but ascribes it to the creature, not the Creator (as in Romans 1:22-24). They flaunt the “I am God” concept as it naturally appeals to man’s ego and thirst for power, an appeal as old as the Garden of Eden. Satan promised Eve: “Ye shall be as God.”

It is of of the goals of the New Age Movement to cause people to rebel against the true God of the Bible and to believe that they are deities. Once Satan has the person in this heretical frame of mind, then the battle is won. The individual will then be called for greater service to the Prince of Darkness. And with a mind clouded and confused, he or she will comply. The individual will have become a member, knowingly or unknowingly, of the Satanic conspiracy. [Texe Marrs, Millennium, pp. 224-25]

Man should seek and accept spiritual instruction and direction directly from the spirit world. 

The lure of the occult is almost always on the basis of acquiring knowledge or power. [Neil T. Anderson, The Bondage Breaker, pg. 114] We crave a knowledge that is esoteric, not normally available to the ordinary person. We want to experience a power that is spiritual and supernatural in origin. People don’t seem to want to hear what God has to say, they want information and direction from someone else who “knows”; a psychic, a channeler, a palm-reader, a card-reader, Ouija boards, astrology, magic charming, automatic writing, or the spirit of a dead friend of relative. 

http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=1573831212&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrIn a sense these are God-given desire, but they are intended to be fulfilled by the knowledge and power which comes from God. However, Satan is busy trying to pass off his counterfeits for God’s knowledge and power as the real thing. If he can get us to accept his versions of knowledge and power, he has a foothold in our life.

All religions and religious teachings lead to the same goal. All are equally of merit.

 
Satan’s primary tactic in opposing God is not to foster atheism but religion; not to prove there is no God but to be worshipped as God. “I have not come to found a new religion,” Lord Maitreya says. “I have come to teach the art of Self-realization,” something which is neither an ideology nor a religion, but benefits people of all religions and those who have none. “I come to you ‘like a thief in the night'”, He tells us, “so that you will not become too excited. Slowly, as you become aware, you can ‘digest’ what is ‘eaten’. In awareness you will know Me. In ‘isms’ you will fight against me”.

The New Age does express a cloudy sort of religion, claiming vague connections with both Christianity and the major faiths of the East (New Agers like to say the Jesus spent 18 years in India absorbing Hinduism and the teachings of Buddha), plus an occasional dab of pantheism and sorcery. The underlying faith is a lack of faith in the orthodoxies of rationalism, high technology, routine living, spiritual law-and-order. Somehow, the New Agers believe, there must be some secret and mysterious shortcut or alternative path to happiness and health.

http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=1556610777&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifr“Ecumenism is essential in creating a “Christianity” which embraces all religions. Psychology plays a major ecumenical role by providing common faith, language and ritual for everyone from atheists, cultists and occultists to Roman Catholics and evangelicals.” [Dave Hunt, “Mystery Babylon Part II,” The Berean Call, August 1993]

The “ancient wisdom” of Babylon, Egypt and Greece – not the Bible – is the basis of all truth. 

 
Vice President Albert Gore in his book Earth in the Balance; Ecology and the Human Spirit, reveals himself as a person who believes we should have a “mother goddess” that we can worship. He points back to ancient religions and Hinduism and says that they have something good in their worship of “mother earth,” and claims that our modern slogan should be the worship of “mother earth”; that man and nature are one, and that God is part of nature, and nature is part of God. On pages 258 through 259 of his book, he shows where he departed from the Baptist faith and entered in to the New Age Religion. 

He says “The richness and diversity of our religious tradition through out history is a spiritual http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=0962008680&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrresource long ignored by people of faith, who are often afraid to open their minds to teachings first offered outside their own system of belief.” “This Pan-religious perspective may prove especially important where our global civilizations responsibility for the earth is concerned.” “Native American Religions for instance offer a rich tapestry of ideas about our relationship to the earth.”[Al Gore, Earth In the Balance; Ecology and the Human Spirit, Houghton Mifflin Company, 1992.]

 
Sin and evil do not exist. 
Peace and love are the ultimate realities. 
 
New Agers deny the existence of a hell (gehenna fire) and a judgment. They also deny that sin and evil exist. God (The universe) is alleged to be beyond good and evil.

The New Age gospel is not a system of revolutionary principles. It does not promote strife and war, but aims at peace and unity. It seeks not to set the mother against her daughter nor the father against his son, but fosters the fraternal spirit whereby the human race is regarded as one great “brotherhood.” It does not seek to drag down the natural man, but to improve and uplift him. It advocates education and cultivation and appeals to “the best that is within us.” It aims to make this world such a comfortable and congenial habitat that Christ’s absence from it will not be felt and God will not be needed. 

 
Depending on which branch of the New Age movement you encounter, there may or may not be http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=188137405X&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifra great world leader who will emerge to lead us all to enlightenment. Some New Agers await the advent of the Lord Maitreya while others believe we will all become so godlike that we will not need any leaders. The Bible tells of an age when God is going to permit Satan to actually rule in person on this earth!

If a New Age leader emerges, he could well be the Antichrist, an enemy of mankind who will be intent on leading the world into terrible rebellion against God and who will be destroyed along with his followers. Although God’s prophets foretold many explicit signs of Christ’s first coming most people missed Him. Likewise, God has given many definite signs that point to the second coming of Jesus. False Christ’s and false prophets are high on the list.

The question is, do you KNOW God in Christ Jesus … as He has revealed Himself in the Scriptures? Have you read His Book? Have you studied it? How can you be sure you know the real God in Christ Jesus if you have not studied what He has said about Himself?

This was from “The Jeremiah Project”

Is The New-Age False “Christ” The Antichrist?: Is “Lord-Maitreya” The Antichrist?

New Age Messiah Identified: Is Lord Maitreya Alive & Living in London?

Prophecy in the News with J. R. Church

Part 4 – My Response To An Atheist Essay!

“Hell, of course, is the mother of all of my problems with the bible. It is perhaps the most despicable and hideous of all of the Christian God’s crimes. Indeed, the cruelest of all http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=B000PY432M&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrconcentration camps.”“Most courts of law would take custody of your child from you just for an excessive spanking. We as a people enacted these laws, for we thought them to be logical. Is God above logic, or what we deem as compassionate behavior?”

  THE REAL PROBLEM HERE IS THIS IS A “FALSE ARGUMENT, BECAUSE THE BIBLE NEVER SAYS A CHILD OF GOD CAN GO TO HELL; It is the “Illegitimate” Children of Satan THAT SPEND ETERNITY WITH THEIR FATHER SATAN,WHICH IS ONLY PROPER!
“Free Will”, You Say?

“It is also written that I was given free will with which to choose if I will go to hell or not. How can you possibly deem something free when you must fear consequences?”
 HERE I WOULD ASK
Is the FACT that we enjoy freedom in this country any reason to believe that, that freedom does not come with CONSEQUENCES ATTACHED and responsibilities as well? 
Breathing is FREE to do but if you breath in something bad, there are consequences to your body, but breathing is still free to do! How dare this be true, why can’t I breath in whatever I want without harm?The same is true with FREE WILL,  you can do whatever you choose to do but don’t cry about the results not being what you intended when you choose to do it!


Its always funny to me how we justify stupid behavior by BLAMING GOD for the way things are set up to work, if you break the rules in the instructions you cannot blame the manufacturer of the product. The only way to sue the manufacturer is if there is a DESIGN flaw that causes the problem. 
We as Americans have responsibility to function within the Laws of our country. If we go outside those Laws WE will be incarcerated or fined for the time allowed by Law, we cannot get around the Law just because we are “Citizens” of this country.}

“That (says she) completely conflicts with the definition of free. If I were to hold a gun to your head and say “you have free will to not give me your wallet, but if you attempt to defy me I will kill you.” Does it really feel as if you have a choice in the matter? Of course not.”

“Free means to give or receive something with out an expectation of return. The whole free will concept is self-defeating. Call it Circumstantial Will, for that is what it truly is.”

“That indeed, we as children of God, chose rather to be hell’s inmates then God’s disciples in heaven. It’s an interesting idea. However, you don’t have to hurt anyone to get into Hell. All it takes, according to Scripture, is knowing about Jesus and not accepting him as Savior.” 
WHAT JESUS DID TO STOP YOU FROM GOING TO HELL!
Here is where I would contend that she AND MOST IN THE CHURCHES have a total misunderstanding of the WILL of man.
 
http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=1591858828&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrYou see the ONLY TIME THAT MAN’S WILL WAS TRULY FREE in the Bible is BEFORE THE FALL,WHEN HE WALKED WITH GOD FACE TO FACE!
AFTER THE FALL HIS WILL WAS THEN PULLED BY SIN AND SHADED IN THE VOID OF EVIL,WHEREVER “GOODNESS”WAS ABSENT.
The problem now is that our “mind, will & emotions” are under a shadow, a void, where our understanding must be “Enlightened” by God to TRULY SEE THE WAY- It does NOT matter whether or NOT our will is Free or Enslaved, it is still the only will we have to choose with.
But the real issue lies with “A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING ABOUT GOD’S ORIGINAL PLAN FOR US and because of this missing piece of the puzzle we “DECIDE OR CHOOSE” by wrong information given to us by satanic beings leading us astray and a fallen heart filled with darkness which blinds our choices .

But it is STILL your WILL tainted as it is:

It is the part of you that DECIDES THINGS, that is spiritually being “RAPED” by demonic lies. And each time a lie is accepted it becomes easier and easier to believe the lie!


OR IT CAN BE “GUIDED” BY GOD TO MAKE A RIGHT CHOICE! 
http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=1616380276&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrBut  SHE IS RIGHT ABOUT one thing here ACCEPTING JESUS AS SAVIOR BEING THE ONLY WAY TO AVOID HELL!


THIS IS THE TRUE CHOICE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, FOR JESUS EMBODIES ALL THE PERFECTIONS OF HEAVEN! 
He and he alone can make the right choices because he’s been there and has a “bird’s eye view” of the future! He alone has the KEY to death and Hell, He alone is the Doorway to heaven!
 
We have SELFISH, SELF ABSORBED WILLS THAT ARE BOUND BY WORLDLY PLEASURES AND MISCONCEPTIONS OF THOUGHT.
Our minds IN Hell will EMBODY ALL THE “REGRETFUL SUFFERINGS OF life”ONCE WE “DIE”.
Remember HELL won’t freeze over!
 
We will “KNOW FULLY WHAT WE’VE MISSED OUT ON “BECAUSE OF OUR PERSONAL CHOICES” TO SERVE SELF INSTEAD OF GOD, and this in turn will produce the “Physical sufferings of our spiritual bodies” in hell.
http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=0800759494&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrThe suffering will equal our personal choices in life, no one will suffer for others sins so each punishment will be JUST! God KNOWS your secrets!
 
HELL EXISTS!
THIS IS A FACT!
Our personal beliefs do not change reality in this life or the next. No amount of “Worldly Reasoning” will make the slightest difference to the Judgement seat of Christ!


But there are those who try to attack GOD’S CHARACTER ABOUT HELL,which is like attacking the “WARDEN’S CHARACTER” BECAUSE HE RUNS A PRISON SANCTIONED BY THE LAW OF THE LAND!
 
ASK YOURSELF: Why would Jesus use wording that seems to be BASED UPON pagan false doctrine IF IT REALLY WERE FALSE DOCTRINE ?
The suggestion that Jesus used Jewish Fable and Pagan false doctrine in Luke 16 is inconceivable, not to mention stupid reasoning!
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They are forced into falsely accusing Jesus of promoting what He knew was pagan false doctrine! 
The only reasonable conclusion, is that conscious life after death IS NOT pagan false doctrine, but the very truth Jesus chose to convey by simply reading Luke 16! There’s no interpreting to do just read it as is!
Paul condemned using Jewish myths and fables in 1 Tim. 1:4; 4:7; 2 Tim. 4:4; Tit. 1:14; 2 Pet. 1:16! 
Rather than call themselves false teachers, they call Jesus the false teacher! 
Now PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT ATHEIST’S DO NOT BELIEVE IN ANYTHING SPIRITUAL AS A REALITY, HELL, HEAVEN, GOD….
SO THIS IS ONLY TO PROVE THAT JESUS TAUGHT THIS VERY IMPORTANT DOCTRINE AND IT WAS NOT A FALSE DOCTRINE!

Is there any real logic about the concept of Hell?

The ‘logic’ of hell in the bible is surprisingly simple:

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The bible is full of images of this reciprocity concept:
1.) reaping what you sow…
2.) being paid back….
3.) suffering loss as you had despoiled others….
 
4.) unkindness for unkindness shown….
5.) apathy for apathy rendered…..
6.) ‘eye for an eye’…..
7.) proportional judgment.
Most traditionalists also recognize that our exploitative actions toward others also modify our own characters in the process. 
When I treat people destructively, I also treat myself in some way destructively.
When I treat people kindly, I also treat myself kindly.
“Before proceeding, though, one more preliminary is in order. We do not accept the idea that hell is a place where God actively tortures people forever and ever. 
There will indeed be everlasting, conscious, mental and physical torment in various degrees according to the lives people have lived here on earth.
But the essence of that torment is relational in nature: the banishment from heaven and all it stands for.
Mental and physical anguish result from the sorrow and shame of the judgment of being forever rationally excluded from God, heaven, and so forth.

It is not due to God himself inflicting torture.”

“In response, we should first point out that we would agree that an un-ending hell of moment by moment, active torture by God would be unjust and hard to square with his love and the intrinsic dignity of man. 
But we have already shown that our understanding of hell is different from the torture-chamber model.”
 
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“The Bible describes hell primarily in relational terms–
it is ‘away from’ God
Therefore, it involves banishment from his presence, his purposes, and his followers.
Like heaven, hell is a freely chosen destination. 
What we decide to believe and do in this life sets us on a road leading to a final destination in the next…Hell is also a place of shame, sorrow, regret, and anguish.
This intense pain is not actively produced by God; he is not a cosmic torturer. Undoubtedly, anguish and torment will exist in hell.
And because we will have both body and soul in the resurrected state, the anguish experienced can be both mental and physical. 
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Hell’s occupants will deeply and tragically regret all they lost. As Jesus said, ‘For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?’ (Matt 16:26)”
“The Bible’s picture of hell, therefore, indicates that upon death, some people will be translated into a different, nonsocial mode of existence. 
They will be conscious, and they will await the resurrection of their bodies, at which time they will be banished from heaven and secured in hell where they will experience unending, conscious exclusion from God, his people, and anything of value.
This banishment will include conscious sorrow, shame, and anguish to differing degrees, depending on the person’s life on earth.”
I could not have said it better myself, HELL HAS BEEN TOTALLY MISUNDERSTOOD BY EVEN THE CHURCH ITSELF…SO HOW MUCH MORE HAS IT BEEN MISUNDERSTOOD BY THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW GOD?
The second is from a Catholic source…SURPRISED! I WAS! 
 
A New Catechism:
Catholic Faith for Adults, Seabury:1966, p.480:
http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=1414336063&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifr“Jesus speaks of the of one’s being eternally condemned. We read of ‘eternal punishment’ (Mt. 25:46). 
This could be wrongly understood, as if a disaster or even an injustice then befell the damned, as can sometimes happen with punishments on earth. 
Hence we find it more enlightening to express the same truth by the term ‘eternal sin’. The state of cold obstinacy has become eternal.  They have become impervious to God, love, goodness, Christ and fellowship. 
But it was for these things that man was made.
It is now a total perversion, sin brought to its fullest self-expression. 
To be lost means to be entirely closed in on oneself, without contact with others or with God. This is the punishment, the ‘second death’ (Rev. 20:14). 
Scripture uses terrifying words to express it: darkness, gnashing of teeth, fire. They need not be taken as literal descriptions. 
They are apt expressions nonetheless of the dismay at having missed the end and object of existence.”
http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=0595454240&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrLet me point out here that these two sources would not be ‘liberal’ in ANY sense of the word. They would represent mainstream, conservative, traditional views of hell.
Moreland and Habermas, for example, would probably be considered ‘literalists’ when it comes to the Book of Revelation (probably pre-millennialist). 
The couple of passages that paint potential “mind-numbing” pictures of torment in hell would not be ‘explained away’ by these two, but would be given full weight in constructing their comment quoted above. 
There is no ‘softening’ of the reality of hell here by them, but there is no Dante here either (they literally refer to hell as “living in a state with a low quality of life”–hardly a description of mind-numbing torment! (p.173))…
http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=B004A90BXS&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrNow, it is important here to make sure we understand this point–that the traditional view of hell does not contain the images of torture of Dante, the Greek and Roman writers, the Jewish pseudepigraphal writers, and many of the early Church Fathers.

We must try to see the biblical teaching without these cultural and historical preconceptions. 

The Atheist sees Hell in the light of the misconceptions that the church has propagated through false pagan ideas of punishment instead of the Literal words of God in the Bible, so it would be illogical to base your concepts of God upon pagan ideas, would it not?

90 Minutes in Heaven: My True Story 

Nine Days In Heaven: The Vision of Marietta Davis 

Gone For 18 Minutes: To Heaven, To Hell, And Back 

Divine Revelation Of Heaven 

 23 minutes in Hell : CD Video 

Images From Hell 

23 Questions About Hell 

70 Minutes in Hell 

 

Part 3 – My Response to an Atheist Essay!

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN “GOD-IS-NO-WHERE & GOD-IS-NOW-HERE” is only a matter of PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE! 
http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=0525951903&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrJust because WE don’t see it, feel it or witness it personally is NO PROOF that something doesn’t exist, this is the problem with perspective, its different with everyone. Therefore PROOF is seen as many different things, so we should NOT look at evidence through our limited perspective or life experience. If we did this in a court room, no justice could ever result for anyone, the evidence MUST STAND ALONE AS IT IS and be looked at WITHOUT PREJUDICE !
BACK TO THE ESSAY– 
“The second of which is I do not find the state of the world in accordance with an idea of a loving and merciful higher power. Then of course there is the factor that the basis of this essay shall be about; I do not find the Biblical God fit for worship. Over the course of this essay there will be some times when I will speak as if I believe in the Bible, when in fact I do not.”
A.) THE STATE OF THE WORLD:
This I assume refers to the SORRY STATE THAT MAN { With God’s HELP } HAS PUT THE WORLD IN SINCE HIS INTRODUCTION INTO GOD’S CREATION, WARS, FAMINE, HATRED, RELIGION. 

http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=0830837442&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrThe issue here is that she has purposely left out God’s justice and judgment as it would plainly explain the world as it is. Nowhere does the Bible teach anything as she says it does, God requires what any parent requires of their children, payment for wrongdoing in kind. 
Yes God loves us but at the same time requires us to obey the rules set down in nature and the bible. If those rules are broken then we must pay the payment in this life for breaking natural laws and payment in the next for breaking spiritual laws.
  YES, I SAID RELIGION BETTER KNOWN AS HYPOCRISY IN PRACTICE!
Hypocrisy means:
 
Simulation; a feigning to be what one is not; or dissimulation, a concealment of one’s real character or motives. More generally, hypocrisy is simulation, or the assuming of a false appearance of virtue or religion; a deceitful show of a good character, in morals or religion; a counterfeiting of religion.
This is the MAIN REASON for the existence of Atheism in our world today, I believe that for every hypocrite there are hundred’s of NEW ATHEIST’S BORN! Religion created by man for man with the INTENT OF REFORMING OUR BEHAVIOR WITHOUT GOD’S DIRECT HELP! But religion without God won’t work because of How we were made!





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BEHOLD THE HYPOCRISY WITHIN ALL OF US INCLUDING ATHEIST’S, INBREED IN OUR D.N.A. AND PASSED DOWN THROUGH OUR BLOODLINES.

We want to do the right thing but do not want to do it the way its been set up to do it, that is the problem with man-made religion in the first place. There is no excuse for our behavior, EXCEPT that we have predetermined seeds planted in us that will sprout in various degrees, one or many depending on the individual, acting like a straight Jacket in our lives.
 These ‘Seeds’ are not dormant they are ‘Working’ behind the scenes in every human life to kill, steal and destroy, sin brings with it destruction and death, that’s why God wanted us to know AS HE DID not as our own experience!
Galatians 5:19-21
” Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
This is what makes MAN do the ugly things he does both to himself and to nature. ATHEIST’S DO ALL THESE THINGS AS WELL BECAUSE the nature of SIN within is the cause of all the http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=0199759219&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrworld’s problems. Atheists can’t blame the real problem and still believe there is no God, so they do the next best thing and twist the issue to blame a non-existent God. Has it once dawned on them that if God’s not there to blame according to their teaching, then Humanism is to blame in their reality, once they get what they really want……..A WORLD WITHOUT ANY GODS OR RELIGION!
Her problem is a SELF-CREATED one, because of her own “preconceived ideas” about the God she thinks we believe in and how he SHOULD ACT as she see’s it.
If a person who OPENLY IS DEFIANT TO THE GOD OF THE BIBLE, reads the bible, they WILL NOT READ IT AS WE WOULD, so they cannot be honest or truthful in their interpretations. Their own limited knowledge of the things of God and God himself stands in their way of seeing the world as it really is!



THIS IS A “PRECONCEIVED RESPONSE” rooted deep in the soul which can only be uprooted by an “INVASION OF PURE TRUTH” that breaks through the hardness of mental blocks that have been either self-taught or generationally instilled!
The problem of “Evil in the world” is a real issue and to properly understand it is the KEY to http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=0802807976&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrunderstanding OUR purpose in the plan of God. First we MUST understand that “Evil” is never to be understood in the OLD MIDDLE AGE DOGMAS of the false churches created to purposely confuse mankind about God!
B.) “THE IDEA OF A LOVING & MERCIFUL FATHER”
ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND WHY GOD DOES THINGS THE WAY HE DOES, THEN ALL THOSE IMPOSSIBLE OUTCOMES ARE NO LONGER IMPOSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND!

Here is more of her essay:

” I plan to examine the Bible with critical inquiry. This essay will not be based upon scientific facts and how they disprohttp://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=1418441554&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrve the Bible. It shall be an application of my emotions regarding compassion, love, mercy, patience, and justice. 
I hope to explain more clearly why the God depicted in the Bible violates my idea of a moral being. This shall be done over a series of topics. Each pointing out how Jehovah is undeserving of my worship. I will utilize Biblical verses to support my claim as well as what I consider to be logical reasoning.”
You will notice that she is BASING THIS CRITICAL INQUIRY ON EMOTIONAL IDEALS,THEREFORE NEGATING HER RESULTS BECAUSE OF A COMPLETE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OF GOD’S PURPOSE IN DOING THINGS THE WAY HE DID THEM!
She is using what she THINKS SHE WOULD DO IN GOD’S PLACE TO JUDGE HIS ACTIONS. The problem here is obvious, human emotions are both weak and limited because they were never meant to GUIDE US in the long term, only in the short term!

Is this fair?

It is common for all of us to do it BUT IT IS A VERY LIMITED WAY TO JUDGE ANY SUBJECT because our knowledge of the subject goes ONLY AS FAR AS OUR EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENTS TO IT, what I call a “Preconceived Idea”!
It’s like a “SCRATCHED RECORD” we replay what we KNOW HAS OR WILL HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN NO MATTER HOW GOOD THE EVIDENCE IS TO THE CONTRARY!
If we deem God “EVIL”then we cannot believe past our “IDEA that God is bad, even when the evidence is exactly the opposite.
It is always funny that the Atheist will use the very things that God has in FAR more abundance than they do { Love, Grace, Mercy, Fairness, Righteousness, Kindness ect. } to disprove his ability to rule, SHE SAYS SHE WILL BE Capable of judging with accuracy; conforming to exact rules of propriety AT LEAST THAT’S WHAT THE WORD “CRITICAL” MEANS, I make NO SUCH CLAIM BECAUSE IT IS “IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO, WHEN YOUR MIND IS ALREADY MADE UP CONCERNING WHAT YOU BELIEVE you forfeit the very propriety and accuracy you claim to have.
The only way to TRULY JUDGE THE BIBLE IS TO BE “COMPLETELY FREE OF ALL EMOTIONAL BAGGAGE” IN CONNECTION TO THESE SUBJECTS! 
SO I ASK YOU IN ALL HONESTY…. CAN YOU OR ANYONE GET IN LINE FOR JUDGING GOD?
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It is NOT what I or you consider to be LOGICAL WITH OUR SHIFTING EMOTIONAL OUTBURSTS THAT SHOULD BE USED TO JUDGE EVIDENCE FOR OR AGAINST GOD’S ACTIONS BUT ONLY PURE LOGICAL DEDUCTION ALONE!
I am NOT saying that we cannot have emotional attachments to the subject God knows I do, what I am saying is that we cannot begin to be “Logical” if emotion takes the place of understanding.” 
The last blog I gave you “PROVED FROM SCIENCE THAT THERE IS THE PLAUSIBLE RIGHT TO BELIEVE THAT GOD DOES EXIST, WITHOUT ANY EMOTIONAL OUTBURST ATTACHED TO IT CAN YOU HONESTLY DENY THAT EVIDENCE?
If you can, then your battle is not with God but LOGICAL DEDUCTION ITSELF.

PROOF MEANS THIS:

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Proof differs from demonstration which is what Atheist’s present constantly AS EVIDENCE, which is applicable only to those truths of which the contrary is inconceivable.
A PROOF PRODUCES Firmness of mind; stability not to be shaken; as a mind or virtue that is proof against the arts of seduction and the assaults of temptation. Let’s face facts……
Atheist’s have NEVER, THAT’S RIGHT NEVER PRESENTED “EVIDENCE IN PROOF” THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST…WHY?
Because they can’t find any…so they do what comes naturally, ATTACK GOD’S CHARACTER INSTEAD.
Its almost “FUNNY” TO WATCH THE “NO-GODS” ATTACK THE CHARACTER OF SOMEONE WHO IS’NT THERE.
Now let’s look at this behavior LOGICALLY-HOW CAN ANYONE ATTACK SOMEONE IF THEY DO NOT EXIST IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND CAN THAT “character information gathered to DISPROVE the existance of God REALLY BE USED AS EVIDENCE AGAINST HIS EXISTENCE- TALK ABOUT “CIRCULAR REASONING”
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THIS STINKS OF IT WITH EVERY FALSE ARGUMENT PRESENTED. 
Another question,WHY DON’T ATHEIST’S EVER USE THE SAME REASONING AGAINST OTHER RELIGIONS JUST AS BRUTALLY AS THEY SEEM TO DO WITH CHRISTIANITY?
There are a MULTITUDE OF GODS THROUGHOUT HISTORY THAT ARE FAR “WORSE” & MAKE THE OLD TESTAMENT LOOK LIKE A PICNIC IN COMPARISION,WHY NOT “ATTACK THEM? 
The God of scripture SEEMS TO BE the ONLY GOD that warrents their anger,and THAT ALONE MAKES THEIR AURGUMENTS INVALID! IT PROVES THAT OUR GOD IS POWERFUL & ALL OTHERS ARE NOT,OR THEY WOULD ALL BE EQUALLY ATTACKED & MALINED! 
http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=theope-20&o=1&p=8&l=bpl&asins=1170118305&fc1=000000&IS2=1&lt1=_blank&m=amazon&lc1=0000FF&bc1=000000&bg1=FFFFFF&f=ifrTHEREFORE I PRESENT BEFORE YOU THAT IT IS THE A-THEIST { THE TRUE BLUE there is NO God person } AND NOT GOD THAT DOES NOT EXIST!

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