What’s True? A Spiritual or Natural Chosen People? Not everyone who says “I’m of Israel” is of Israel!


This is to SETTLE my PERSONAL VIEWS regarding THE DOCTRINE OF SPIRITUAL ISRAEL Vs. NATIONAL ISRAEL: BOTH of which exist today…..I am an Historicist , so that naturally brings up the doctrine of “Spiritual Israel” or AS IT IS KNOWN BY IT’S DETRACTORS “Replacement Theology” in other words the Church has REPLACED Israel as God’s chosen people.

I do believe that God is using the TRUE CHURCH as he used National Israel in the Old Testament, FILLING THE CHURCH WITH BOTH JEWS AND GENTILES AS A “NEW NATION” of saved people IN AND OF THEMSELVES apart from the nation in the middle east which consists of those who are Jewish in the flesh and most who are converts to a religion called Judism.

Romans 2:25-29 (KJV)

” For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. ”

“Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the0307_ten_commandments_christian_clipart
Election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded…unto
this day.”–Romans 11:7,8.

THE words of the Apostle Peter,Acts 2:39 (KJV)

” For the promise is unto you(National Israel in the Flesh), and to your children(National Israel in the Flesh), and to all(Spiritual Israel in the New Covenant) that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. “, are in full harmony with all of the Lord’s dealings with Israel, and with His Covenant with them as the posterity of His servant Abraham.

The “Seed,” promised by the Lord in His Covenant with Abraham, was for many centuries supposed to mean only the natural seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob–only those who were under the Law of Moses–the Jewish nation. But there was a condition attached to this promise of heirship. When God entered into the Covenant with Israel, the understanding was that if they would keep the Law they should have everlasting life and should inherit the privilege of blessing all the families of the earth–all peoples. But that if they did not keep the Law, then they would be cut off from all these favors.It’s this simple,THE ONLY MEMBERS OF TRUE ISRAEL TODAY UNDER THE NEW COVENANT ARE THOSE WHO HAVE RECEIVED YESHUA AS THEIR MESSIAH,THEY ARE ISRAEL!

The keeping of the Law was required, however, that Israel might have a right to life everlasting and to share in any of God’s promises. But they could not keep the Law; consequently none of them gained life. Yet there were some who manifested such heart loyalty to God that He declared that they were acceptable to Him. These faithful, obedient ones met the conditions by which they might, through the Redeemer whom God would in due time provide, become a part of the “Seed” who was to bless “all the families of the earth.” As they had no knowledge of the purpose of God to have a Spiritual Seed, the attaining of a place in the natural seed to bless all mankind was all that they had hoped for. St. Paul points out that these Worthies of past ages will have a glorious place in the Kingdom.

“These all died in faith, not having received the Promises,…God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.”–

Hebrews 11:13,40

. Jesus declared to the unfaithful Jews of His day, “Ye shall see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God, and ye yourselves ( Those who claim the Jewish right) thrust out.” (Luke 13:28.)

The faithful saints who lived before Christ will be the human representatives of the Kingdom. They will be “princes in all the earth,” as declared by the Lord through the Prophet David. (Psalm 45:16.)

Thus they will receive a great blessing. Until Christ came God never led the Jews to understand His Plan for the Spiritual Seed. His time for bringing this feature of His Plan to light and for calling candidates for places in this Seed class, had not yet come. Those who lived prior to this Call were not deceived in any manner nor defrauded of anything. God merely told them of the possibilities which were before them of becoming blessers of the world. Such as accepted the possibilities and rendered the Lord full obedience to the best of their ability, became heirs of the earthly phase of the Kingdom and the promises belonging thereto.

When our Lord Jesus came, His ministry and that of the Apostles up to the time of the close of the “seventy weeks” (symbolic) yet remaining of Jewish favor, was, according to God’s agreement with Israel, confined to the Jewish people. And as many of them as were of the right condition of heart undoubtedly received the Message.

As the Jews were the chosen people of God, because of being the natural seed of Abraham, His friend, when the time came for calling out the Spiritual Seed the opportunity of becoming of this Seed must first go to Israel. Afterwards, the offer went to the Gentiles, to take out from them a sufficient number to complete the Spiritual Seed–the Gospel Church. Natural Israel never were heirs to the spiritual unconditionally of any part of the Promise to Abraham nor heirs, as a nation, of the spiritual part of the Promise–the chief, the principal part. They were on trial before the Law of God, which was expressed in their Law Covenant, to see whether or not they would be worthy of eternal life. And so it was with our Lord Jesus when He was made flesh, born under the Law–subordinate to the Law. (Galatians 4:4.)

It was only because He was perfect and kept the Law, that He was able in God’s due time to present His body a living sacrifice as a Substitute for Adam.

His faithful keeping of the Law proved His right to eternal life; and His sacrifice of that life as a man, under God’s arrangement, raised Him to the highest place in the Universe next to Jehovah–the Divine plane–with authority to execute Jehovah’s Program for the salvation of the world of mankind. He thus became the Head of the Spiritual Seed of Abraham. When Jesus made His consecration, He was begotten of the Spirit. He was born of the Spirit, completed of the Spirit, in His resurrection, and He was the First born to this condition. Afterward, those Jews who were in the right condition of heart were accepted on the same terms. But instead of God’s making those called to be of the Spiritual Seed actually just, perfect–as our Lord Jesus was–He justifies them by faith.

Jesus was absolutely without imperfection–the Apostle Paul speaks of Him as being “holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners.” (Hebrews 7:26.)

0016_dove_flying_christian_aniGod imputes to the followers of Jesus a sufficiency of His merit that they may be reckoned just–counted as perfect.The whole object of this reckoning is to give us the privilege of becoming Spiritual Israelites by sacrificing. So the Father’s arrangement is that if we desire to be the disciples of Jesus we must take up our cross and follow Him, becoming dead to the flesh, dead to self, dead to everything worldly. Then Christ becomes our Advocate.

The Father accepts all such as His sons. The Apostle Paul exhorts all who have accepted the redemption that is in Christ, saying, “I beseech you, therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.”–Romans 12:1.

The picture that God gives through the Apostle Paul in the 11th chapter of Romans represents Israel as the trunk and the branches of the olive tree, and the root of the tree as the Promise which God made to Abraham, which was to bless the world. God had not explained His Plan to them, but had merely said: “Do you wish to enter into a Covenant with Me–to be My peculiar people?”

“Yes,” was the answer.

“When will you be ready?”

“We are ready now,” they replied.

And so this Covenant was made, which constituted them the nation, or tree, growing out of the root of Promise.

The Promise was primarily spiritual, though this fact was long kept hidden. God never purposes to do anything except through the Spiritual Seed, but Natural Israel did not know this.

They declared that they would be all that God wished them to be, if only they might have the Promise made to Abraham their Father.

What it was they did not know, although they thought they knew?

They were anxious to have the best at any rate. And they still had this thought and this hope in Jesus’ day; as St. Paul said:

“Unto which Promise our twelve tribes, instantly serving God day and night, hope to come.” (Acts 26:7.)

And again the Apostle says:

“Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for, but the Election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded”; that is, those of the Jews who came into Christ became of the Elect.–Rom. 11:7.


Replacement Theology essentially teaches that the church has replaced Israel in God’s plan. Adherents of Replacement Theology believe that the Jews are no longer God’s chosen people, and God does not have specific future plans for the nation of Israel. All the different views of the relationship between the church and Israel can be divided into two camps: either the Church is a continuation of Israel (Replacement Theology / Covenant Theology), or the Church is completely different and distinct from Israel (Dispensationalism / Premillennialism).Remember I am in the middle on this!

Go here to witness the a story of how national Israel MIGHT JUST BE BEING USED & MANIPULATED by those who want a one world government (Remember that facts can be used wrongly so be diserning when you read this.) at:

Conspiracy Planet

Replacement Theology teaches that the Church is the replacement for Israel, and that the many promises made to Israel in the Bible are fulfilled in the Christian Church, not in Israel. So, the prophecies in Scripture concerning the blessing and restoration of Israel to the Promised Land are “spiritualized” or “allegorized” into promises of God’s blessing for the Church. Major problems exist with this view, such as the continuing existence of the Jewish people throughout the centuries, and especially with the revival of the modern state of Israel. If Israel has been condemned by God, and there is no future for the Jewish nation, how do we explain the supernatural survival of the Jewish people over the past 2000 years despite the many attempts to destroy them? How do we explain why and how Israel reappeared as a nation in the 20th century after not existing for 1900 years?

I believe there is a middle ground here somewhere since the point CANNOT be overcome on either side,they BOTH SOUND GOOD..so where do we go?

Spiritual Israel- IS THE TRUE CHURCH IT?

In religion today you hear all kinds of misinformation that is taught as bible truth. For example some teach you have to be water baptized to be saved. Others teach against this, saying water baptism is “an outward sign of an inward commitment”.

Then there are the issues of tongues, healing’s, tithing, gifts, signs, judgments, communion, forgiveness, atonement, and covenants, not to mention salvation, justification, redemption and reconciliation. Why is there so much confusion in churches today? Why is it that you can drive down any city street and find many, many kinds of church buildings? What is the reason for so much division? There is division because there is very little “right division” of the scripture. The confusion in the churches today stems from an evil root that fails to grasp several vital, yea, imperative bible truths. There is confusion because of a failure to…. Rightly divide the word of truth and acknowledge Paul as the apostle to the Gentiles. We too recognize the distinctiveness of the church, the body of Christ. On the other hand, a complete harmony of the scriptures takes place when we employ these principles. Throughout the church there are those who are not of the “mature faith”, they are immature in the ways of the Anointed one concerning His ultimate plan of reconciliation for the last generation; the proof of this is the fact that they label others as “REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY”. We can see a people in the body of the Anointed Messiah being deceived by these teachers. These teachers target and label anyone that uses the terminology “spiritual Israel”. We are called of God to clarify some simple truth so that you may never be subverted by their ignorance in unbelief. Some in the body of Christ say that natural Israel is the SEED and that natural Israel is the object of all Old Testament scripture, though many have different degrees to which that apply this doctrine. Some of them pick and choose by some complicated method that scripture pertains to natural Israel EXCLUSIVELY and another scripture will pertain to the church. They are quite confused, these same Christians existed in Paul’s day, and therefore he strongly admonished them.Paul made it quite simple, Israel is Jew AND Greek, together comprising God’s great plan. Paul calls both Jew and Greek – branches! One is a natural branch and the other is a wild olive branch. Paul clearly taught in Romans that the natural branch was cast off. What does Paul mean by that? Though Yeshua was a Jew, to abide in Yeshua, as a natural Jew you cannot “naturally” attach. It is through faith not by natural birthright, not by Cain or Esau. Therefore by faith the Jew first, at the day of Pentecost, attached by faith to Yesuha and three thousand were saved – grafted. Afterwards the gospel was preached to the gentile and they likewise were grafted by faith. So what we have now is natural Israel branches grafted alongside wild olive branches that were grafted. One has NO INHERITANCE over the other because ALL are fellow heirs with Anointed Messiah.

Christ is SPIRITUAL ISRAEL; He is the ONLY heir according to promise! This new doctrine, this new covenant is called the new wine. The old wineskin is equal to the non-grafted natural branches; they represent the natural Old Testament order, which are fulfilled, and cast away. As a natural Jew you must receive and hold this new wine in a new wineskin.

The new wineskin is God’s new way of doing things – to abide in Yeshua and get grafted, get new. When the old wineskin became discarded it was because Yeshua fulfilled all that it represented. Jesus was the promise, He was the Promised Land, He was the final and ultimate sacrifice, He was the Temple, and He was Israel.How could anyone deny that Yeshua is Spiritual Israel when Paul describes how the promise was not to seeds as many but to Seed as One. Therefore when you are in the Anointed Yeshua you are IN SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. This is not hard. To deny this is to deny Yeshua’s birthright to the promise. God did not plan for a dual plan or dual promise; it is totally exclusive to Yeshua. Therefore when the Bible talks about Israel or about the Jew in relationship to promise, it is written to ONE PERSON – Yeshua. It prophesies to One Person – YESHUA! When the first animal was slain to cover Adam and Eve it prophesied of Yeshua. Every animal sacrificed afterwards pointed over and over and over again to Yeshua the sacrifice. Likewise, each natural Jew that was born pointed over and over and over again to Yeshua – the Heir of the promise. Those IN Yeshua are co-heirs because of BEING grafted into the TRUE VINE YESHUA not because of the law or natural birth.I do believe that “Natural Israel” is still being DIRECTED BY G*D to an ultimate end BUT only because natural Israel must complete her cycle in the prophetic plan of G*d…but Natural Israel MUST REPENT in order to be included in Yeshua’s Spiritual Body, made up of BOTH NATURAL JEW’S FROM THE SEED AND THOSE WHO WERE NEVER A NATURAL SEED! After all G*D said that the Gospel was to the JEW FIRST then to the Gentile. Here’s a LINK to the Agenda of the Jesuits in regard to Israel : Jesuit Agendas

What God intends is this, the last days Church is a two-winged church, Jew and Greek, yet ONE in the Spirit. The church is not a “Jewish church” which thinks it is more special than the “gentile church” and the church is not a gentile church which thinks it is more special than the Jewish church. The Christian Jews will SERVE both gentile and Jew in the same manner and the Christian gentiles will SERVE both Jew and gentile in the same manner. This is the way of the anointed Messiah, REMEMBER that G*D choses those who serve Him in spirit and in truth and NO ONE CAN DO THAT UNLESS THEY ARE “NEW COVENANT” BELIEVER’S. Natural Israel is NOT under the New covenant plan of G*D as far as being saved and free in Messiah BUT is under G*D’S prophetic plan to fulfill the complete picture in these last days of History!

THE “TRUE CHOSEN PEOPLE” ARE THOSE WHO ACCEPT THE MESSIAH’S PLAN OF REDEMPTION NOT THE OLD SHADOW OF THESE THINGS WHICH WAS THE SCHOOL TEACHER LEADING TO THE MESSIAH’S IDENTITY.I love my Jewish Brothers & Sisters in Messiah and I hope I am totally clear about what I said here,if not I’m sure that I will hear about any thing that needs clearifing! HERE ARE SOME OTHER INTERESTING LINKS ON THE SUBJECT:

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